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Erk
6th December, 2007, 04:02 AM
Every day, every student in the Natori school district is provided with a school lunch called "kyuushoku". This was once translated engrishly by one of my students as "provision of meal". Literally, I think one could call it "assigned lunch" or "ration lunch". Of course, the meaning is "school lunch".

Studying the school lunch and the way kids talk about it has revealed to me some interesting stuff about how Japanese people think of food.

Before I go into detail, I should describe how I think of meals - or at least how I was brought up to. In our family, a meal was generally split into "protein", "starch", and "vegetable". Usually that means something like chicken, rice, and carrots, or pork chops, mashed potatoes and a salad. There were many variations on this theme and many meals that strayed wholly from it, but that was the core idea. If asked what I had for dinner, even now, I'd respond with the protein first and then maybe list the others.

In Japan, the main dish is called, eloquently enough, the shushoku (主食) - "main dish" or "staple dish". With the school lunches, we alternate daily between either a rice or bread shushoku. This is the first big difference: if you ask a Japanese person what they had for lunch, they'll often answer simply "rice" or "bread". I suspect this is part of where the myth that Japanese people eat nothing but rice came from. Likewise, I suspect the counterpart - that Westerners will often answer "chicken" instead - has a bit of influence on our reputation here as dedicated meateaters.

Besides the staple, the other "mandatory" element to a japanese meal is the shirumono (汁物), the soup. Considering a soup to be more or less indispensable to the meal is something that might seem a bit odd to foreigners like me, but that's just the way they roll in these parts. Typically the shirumono is miso-based, but there are others. In today's school lunch, the shiromono is actually an udon noodle soup.

Shirumono and shushoku can combine their powers to become... BREAKFAST. The traditional modern Japanese breakfast is a bowl of rice and a bowl of miso soup.

The next element of a larger balanced meal is the shusai (主菜), literally the "main ingredient" or "main side dish". This is often a protein, but by no means always. I can't really find any uniting factor for what defines the shusai except the size of the main element. Shusai generally seems to be a single large chunk or a few large chunks of something, be it tempura squash, a couple gyoza, or a piece of chicken.

Finally, the school lunches also include a fukusai (副菜), "secondary ingredient" or "lesser side dish". Like the shusai, this seems defined mostly by its size: fukusai is usually made up of a lot of small bits and pieces. For example, today's was a sautee of corn and hot dog weiners. Yumm. Other school fukusai include japanese-style pickles (tsukemono), seaweed salad, soybean and corn sautee or salad, and a wide variety of other dishes.

Bottom line: the Japanese like to have more dishes in their meals than they do, for one thing. For another, they divide their dishes more by texture than by food group. That, as they say, is food for thought.

Alisa_Tana
6th December, 2007, 08:29 AM
If I may add.

I, unlike Erk, didn't get to experience school lunches. I did however often have supermarket bento, which pretty much follow what he's said. The one I had most frequently was called "Noriben" or simply: "Seaweed Bento." This perfectly described the meal to my students, even tho I would have described it as a Tempura Squid Bento, again that whole Western-Protein thing.


I did get the opportunity to enjoy a Breakfast and a Dinner in a Japanese home while I was there.

The Breakfast was a bowl of rice, a bowl of miso soup, and 4 or 5 grilled anchovies. Since my hostess was considerate to the fact that I don't eat fish, she was gracious enough to make me a simple omelet with green onions. We also had a fruit that was a cross between a lemon and an orange that I don't remember the name of. But it was yummy.

The Dinner was huge. One of my neighbors had invited me over for tea, and I wound up staying for Dinner with her two kids and her parents. My hostess was constantly moving, preparing food for the rest of us. I barely remember seeing her eat.
Her son had a soccer game the next day, so we had Pork Katsu (its a pun, because "katsu" also means "to win" so its a good luck charm).
And there was Hamburg steak - which is to say a patty of ground beef in a slightly sweet sauce.
She also served a type of fish. I don't remember exactly what kind, just that her father kept trying to get me to eat it, despite explaining that I don't eat fish. OH, but keep in mind "Fish ain't meat."
There may have been a fourth protein, but I don't remember. Of course there was also rice and soup, and a cabbage based salad.

Cocoa
6th December, 2007, 02:45 PM
That's interesting Erk. Quite similar to the lunch I have, although I can say all I have for breakfast is instant ramen ~lazy~. Lunch for me, well, is either rice with a seaweed-based soup or rice wrapped in nori.

The main thing I see about the differences are, with much of the Eastern world using Rice as the main staple and the West with bread as the main staple. Doesn't mean I don't eat bread, though. Usually, I have bread with curry and rice.

J.D. Slasha
6th December, 2007, 03:58 PM
I always find it so weird how similar many Asian/Pacific islander countries arer in terms of eating habits. You should head down to Philippines when you get a chance; it's slightly similar to how you descriibed Japanese dining, except Filipino dining is well.... almost always fried. My friend went to Japan a few months ago and explained to me this really neat type of sushi he had; by chance did you eat a hamburger sushi yet? I am really curious to try that. Bah, I'm getting kinda' hungry.

Cocoa
6th December, 2007, 08:54 PM
The misconception that the Japanese eat only rice is a very plausible one. It does apply to all of Asia as well, as well as most people of that ethnicity. Other than some kinds of noodles, and the rare pizza, I can very well say that I eat mainly rice, soy, and other additions to the rice dish.

That aside, Erk, have you ever had Natto? I never had the chance to try any of that.

Alisa_Tana
6th December, 2007, 10:46 PM
Natto is interesting. I've only had it as Nattomaki, a sushi roll with natto in the middle. In that format, its palletable, since the rice and seaweed help to neutralize it. ;p

Its the plate of plain Natto that I don't think I could manage. sticky stinky gooey pile of little bean curds.
I had nattomaki with Erk once, if I recall I ate more of it, but that was partly because I wasn't eating the fish based sushi.

Cocoa
7th December, 2007, 01:13 AM
I know it has a... unattractive odor, but I'm far more interested in the flavor of the natto alone. How does it taste?

Erk
7th December, 2007, 01:30 AM
it's hard to notice the taste, the slimy texture is more what gets me. The taste is kinda cheesy/nutty.

Rai, I wouldn't say bread takes the place of rice as the main staple in the west; it serves a different role. We don't eat it nearly as often as the Japanese eat rice. I would say that at least in my family, especially at the dinner table, potatoes and rice and pasta formed the main carbohydrate group. Bread is important at lunch and breakfast, but still often supplanted by cereal in the latter. The only meal it was really a staple in for me was lunch. Others' mileage may differ. By contrast, rice is traditionally present at every meal in Japanese cuisine. Of course, the introduction of what I call "disney food" - the Japanese impression of what Western food is like - has lead to other grains entering the mix. Like I said, in half our school lunches, we get bread instead of rice. That is just bread, just a big hunk o' bread, not sandwiches or anything. Just like the Japanese eat their rice.

That said, for most of the people I know here, despite eating rice with every meal it is not usually the big filler we use our carbs as. Generally they have access to a lot (in the rice cooker, or in the tin that school rice comes in), but only eat a little. Like every other dish, the rice is backed up by a wide variety of vegetables and other dishes to maintain balance. And noodles are more than "just a little", they're the one thing here that gives rice a genuine run for its money. Soba or ramen are the lunch of champions outside of school.

JD : I've had pork cutlet makisushi and a few other westernised meat-sushi, but not hamburger yet. The things they do with hamburger here are really odd. When we get a hamburger patty in our school lunch it always comes with a bun, yet everyone looks at me like a total weirdo when I put the "hamburg" into the bun. Hamburgers like we think of them are rare here, but the "hamburg" is a rising dietary star. Amusing note: when asked why a hamburg is called a hamburg and a hamburger a hamburger, many Japanese will respond, "It's the 'er'. The 'er' means 'bread'."

Cup o' Wisps
10th December, 2007, 03:16 PM
It's funny, because except for sandwiches or the extremely rare holiday big family dinner I almost never have bread, yet almost any meal I cook will have rice. Be it breaded chicken cutlets, pepper steak, a weird dish I semi invented that's like a mix between sloppy joes and soup (sounds nasty but it's actually pretty good) - hell I'd say half at least of my meals include rice. Probably more of my meals if we count the constant money being flowed to the Chinese food delivery. The only food I probably eat more than rice now is pizza (which sadly who I'm living with must order EVERY saturday).
And even though pizza on Saturday has been years, I still probably eat more rice.

(edit) come to think of it, since I really don't know how to make any other "side dishes" as I would say, I'd say every "complete meal" I personally cook has rice in it(/edit)

I don't know why.
I just found that somewhat amusing, coming from a Caucasian in the Western World who usually blanches when he hears the words "Japanese food", yet I if I went into more detail (except the wording) I have more in common with the thinking or habit, than my own side of the pond. Just amusing. Blah.

Erk
11th December, 2007, 12:35 AM
Well, rice is the single most consumed staple-food in the world, accounting for 20% of all calories consumed by humans, so I'd say it's not only Japan you have a trait in common with, 60.25 ;)

Cup o' Wisps
11th December, 2007, 11:48 AM
I know, I was more meaning the set up not the actual fact I'm eating rice.
I could have sword it was somewhat higher than 20%, I thought it was like 32 or some weird number like that.

HawkZombie
11th December, 2007, 06:00 PM
This thread makes me hungry.

EDIT: Also, I've heard Natto refered to by several people as 'bean spooge'...that alone I think would turn most western/the world people off from it.